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Forum: What Would Real Tax Reform Look Like?

24 Monday Apr 2017

Posted by bydesign001 in Forum Responses, Wow! Magazine

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Every week on Monday, the WoW! writers, community and our invited guests weigh in at the Wow! Forum, short takes on a major issue of the day, the culture, or daily living. This week’s question: What Would Real Tax Reform Look Like?

Don Surber: Real tax reform would be 20% of all income over $120,000 with the end of all tax credits. But good luck getting rid of EITC. Until we stop using the tax code as welfare — corporate and personal — we will never see real tax reform.

But we live in a world where we can simplify income taxes.

Doug Hagin : Well, I would eliminate most deductions, loopholes, etc. The fewer of these we have, the fewer ways to cheat. The less ways to cheat, the less need for enforcement. Thus a smaller IRS. A far better system would be for everyone to pay 10% on income after the first $25,000. You make $35,000 you pay $1,000, you make $350,000, you pay $32,500. For dependents, an exemption of $10,000 each. For corporations, businesses, a flat 10%. In short, it should be fairly easy to file your taxes. CPA’s and tax attorneys would hate my plan but, oh well.

In addition, I would eliminate or shrink most government agencies, and reign in foreign aid to nations that are not our friends. At some point the discussion has to be about spending less. There are things the federal government should fund, our military, veterans needs, protection for our coasts, borders, etc.

This is, of course never going to happen, it makes too much sense. And too many people are invested in the convoluted mess that our tax code has become.

Fausta Rodríguez Wertz: What Doug said!

Rob Miller: Whooo, tax reform! I have something of a contrary view. First off, let’s remember where all these handy dandy deductions originally came from. They were efforts by the Feds to promote different industries and different social behavior at a given time, and while they might have been good ideas then, they’ve largely stayed on the books and been abused. And some of the good ones that still make sense were eliminated. F’rinstance, people in arts and entertainment who had been  struggling for years  to get a record contract, a book/script  deal or a movie contract  used to be
able to divide that sudden huge chunk of moola by the years they had been struggling and reporting any arts income they made and pay taxes on just a percentage of the income they made during that first reasonably fat year instead of getting killed. Ronaldus Magnus took that one away. GRRR! OK, forgiven.

So the first thing to think about is what the goals are here, and here’s my two cents (agorat for the initiated ; )

President Trump’s skillful handling of the Chinese is going to eventually lead to the same thing that happened with Japan. To avoid tariffs (the stick hidden behind the carrots) they will build plants here, hire Americans and pay U.S. taxes provided they’re competitive. Ditto with American companies. So the first thing we need to do is start more manufacturing here, which will create a great deal more activity that can be taxed and thus more revenue.  So the first goal is to lower the corporate income tax. Ditto with capital gains which means you pay twice for the same damned money.

The second goal is to simplify the IRS tax code. I never used to be a flat taxer, but I’ve gradually come over to that view as I realized the truth of  something a very wise fella once said to me once : “If it ain’t yours, you don’t worry about it.”

Too many folks aren’t paying taxes? Well yeah, but a lot of those people actually are because of legitimate itemized deductions deductions, or because of taking less W-2 exemptions which are subtracted from their gross income. That’s not exactly unfair when you think about it. If you’re self employed and have to pay money out to run your business, should you have to pay taxes on that money? So the first part of reforming our byzantine tax code is to go through it and eliminate deductions that once might have made sense but perhaps no longer do, like the oil depletion allowance perhaps. I’m a little wary about starting anew because some deductions actually pay for themselves and then some, like R&D. Goal number three is to parse the tax code and eliminate what no longer makes sense.

However, if we were going to start fresh with personal income tax, the best way is probably four brackets. I’d have to sit down with the numbers crunchers to come up with actual percentages, but say, 10% of income $20,000 and below, 15% on income $20,000 to $200,000, 20% on income from $200,000 on up. I would still allow a certain amount of deductions to the self employed. You want to promote small business..it pays in the end and creates more revenue.

I’d also keep the child credit for now. America’s birth rate needs to pump up a bit so perhaps we’re not so dependent on immigration. Whole countries in Europe aren’t reproducing at replacement rates, and I  think you see how well that’s working out with what they’ve imported to make up the numbers.

The bee-eeg enchilada, the home mortgage deduction? I would allow it for one, count ’em one family residence. The original idea behind that one was to promote home ownership, and that has a lot of sociological benefits. If people have a stake in things, they tend to care more about their neighborhoods, et cetera, et cetera et cetera.

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And when people pay taxes, they also get concerned about the money the government is wasting.  Like my friend said, if it ain’t yours…but OTOH, if it is, you definitely make it your business to get worried about it.I think the American people would go for that. it would suck for me personally, but there’s always my old friend depreciation and some of the stuff’s free and clear anyway, so I’d  swallow it. Grr again. Ehh!

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Another problem with the tax code nobody wants to mention is the waste and fraud involved dealing with illegal migrants. We spend billions on earned income credits for people working here illegally and for child credits for children not in America whom may not even exist. Read the link to find out how that scam works.

Finally, as much as people dislike the IRS, I think fantasies  about eliminating them are just that. Some people simply won’t  pay taxes. As ol’ Ben said, if men had their way none of them would be taxed. So there needs to be enforcement, accounting and record keeping. Also, if we’re going to eliminate the IRS, you’re talking about a huge amount of unemployment for a class of people who make enough money to buy houses, cars, refrigerators, tires, clothes, food and other consumer items, all of which create economic activity that can be taxed. So while a hiring freeze and/or transfers into a different civil service branch correct this scenario, I think simply axing them is not too bright, as much as some of them may deserve it.

Off topic, one thing The Donald absolutely ought to get into is civil service reform that would allow these so-called public servants to be transferred to different job categories or face layoffs. It can be done, and Jeb Bush of all people did it in Florida, saving the state millions.

Bookworm Room :Real federal tax reform: A 10% sales tax on everything but food basics (milk, meat, produce, bread, etc.). It sounds regressive, but it’s not because people’s consumption tends to be consistent with their income and lifestyle. Marin’s wealthy shop at Whole Foods, drive expensive electric cars, and buy their clothes at Nordstroms and Neiman Marcus. Marin’s less wealth shop at Safeway, drive cheap cars, and buy their clothes at Goodwill or Costco.

Alternative federal tax reform: A 10% tax on gross income over $20,000. Those earning $20,000 or less would pay a 5% tax. Everyone should pay tax.

David Schuler : I’m not sure I can discuss this question adequately in brief but here goes. It depends on your operative definition of “real”. I would say that real tax reform would have the following characteristics:

  • It would not be financed by adding to the debt. That means it should either be revenue neutral or increase revenues.
  • It must be politically possible.
  • It must be either economically neutral or benign.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but no tax reform involving a reduction in the marginal personal income tax rates would be real reform under that rubric. Tax cuts only pay for themselves under very specific circumstances. Neither today’s tax rates nor economy are the tax rates or economy of the 1980s. We don’t make enough of what we consume for the Keynesian stimulus of putting more money in people’s pockets to boost incomes to be effective and the prospects for a tax cut resulting in increased domestic investment are bleak. If a tax cut stimulated the economy it would be China’s economy that would be stimulated not ours.

Cutting spending is equally problematic. About 75% of the budget is just four items: defense spending (including military pensions and the VA), Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, and interest on the debt. With just paying for the federal courts and a minimal regulatory state, that would account for about 85% of the budget with the other 15% already being paid for by borrowing. So, no cuts in marginal rates.

The present deductions are fiercely defended by those who depend on them for their incomes. The biggie, the home mortgage interest deduction, will be defended to the death by the real estate industry. The deductibility of charitable contributions will be defended by not-for-profits. The deductibility of state and local taxes will, unsurprisingly, be defended by state and local governments.

From time to time you hear a national sales tax floated as a replacement for the income tax or a way of reducing marginal tax rates. That’s not real, either. Sales tax is a matter of life and death for state and local governments and retailers.

And so on.

IMO the only prospect for real tax reform is that we might be able to reduce the corporate income tax to fall within OECD norms rather than their present very high level. The corporate income tax accounts for about 11% of present federal revenues. Cutting them in half would require about $180 million in cuts. That can be accomplished in any number of ways including reductions in military spending, trimming the budgets of some federal agencies, or even by a surtax on personal incomes over $1 million. Bringing the corporate income tax down would reduce the incentives for inversions and encourage companies to repatriate some of their overseas earning. That’s something anyway.

Michael McDaniel:
I haven’t spent sufficient time on the issue of tax reform to propound at length, and with any special insight, to say nothing of the nuts and bolts of specific proposals, but I can suggest a few general principles that might have a positive effect:

Everyone needs to have skin in the game. At present, only about 47% of the public pays taxes, and a great many of those that don’t get tax refunds. Think about that one: refunds on taxes they don’t pay. Even the poverty stricken can afford a few hundred a year. Until everyone is a taxpayer, we can’t hope to have meaningful tax reform.

There is no reason individuals can’t pay their taxes on a post card. The simpler, the better.

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We absolutely must dramatically reduce business taxes. Our current “progressive” tax system is among the most regressive in the world and is badly damaging our economy. It has been for a very long time.

There should be very few, and highly specific deductions, available only to those that actually pay substantial taxes, such as the middle class. A home mortgage deduction, deductions for dependent children, and perhaps for adults caring for elderly parents–an issue that becomes more common and pressing by the year–can be retained, and easily citied when filing one’s form 1040 postcard.

There must be no tax loopholes or exemptions for members of Congress or any other governmental employee. They sink or float in the same boat as the rest of us poor deplorables.

It should go without saying that corporate tax welfare is out. Temporary incentives to stimulate plant building, etc., sure, but we must let free enterprise do what it does best and get government out of the market.

Constitutional Amendment: the Federal Tax code may not exceed 50 pages, double-spaced, Times New Roman, 12 font. Felony penalties for anyone adding a period more.

Of course, none of this will be possible without repealing Obamacare, restoring sane immigration policies designed only to directly benefit America and Americans, and without dramatically reducing the size of government. President Trump is making a good beginning, but this is going to be a multi-generational project. Until Americans give up the idea that government can and should provide for all their needs, taxes will never be under control. And of course, whenever progressives are in power, we’ll be skyrocketing in exactly the wrong direction.

Doing this will have one additional useful effect: the IRS can be reduced to a fraction of its current size and power. Oh yes, felony penalties for any IRS employee that abuses their power, including total loss of employment, benefits and pension.

Right Reason :Tax reform cannot be accomplished overnight but we should set a goal to eliminate personal and corporate income taxes completely and stop the federal government’s theft of the hard earned wages of American workers. We have to starve the beast. Government must be forced to operate within a balanced budget. We can eliminate several cabinet departments such as the EPA, DOE, Dept of Ed, FHA… which have no legitimacy from a constitutional perspective. The federal government should operate the way any business is required to operate, spending no more than it takes in.

The federal income tax system is confiscatory theft. The American taxpayers are debt slaves to an out of control and too powerful federal government. As we saw under the Obama Administration the Internal Revenue Service became a political weapon of the left, targeting conservative organizations in an effort to keep them from being able to obtain 501c3 status. This seriously hindered their ability to operate and advance the conservative message going into the 2010 and 2012 election cycles and one might argue a major contributing factor to President Obama’s re-election in 2012. The Internal Revenue Service needs to be stripped of its power and reduced to a simple accounting division of the federal government if left to exist at all.

Real tax reform would be the implementation of a flat tax (a set rate based on income) or a fair tax, which is a consumption tax. I would prefer to see a fair tax replace the current system. Under a fair tax everyone would pay for the products and services they purchase. This fair tax would exempt food, medical care, medicines, and certain other products or services of necessity that could be negotiated and agreed upon by our legislators. We do not want the fair tax to be a regressive tax that would harm low income, elderly, and disabled citizens, but the less people consume the less they would pay. With a consumption tax everyone would contribute towards the operation of the government. Having skin in the game is the only way to make people aware of and care how their money is being spent. Today nearly half of Americans pay no income tax and many actually receive money and benefits without paying anything into the system. As long as they continue to receive government handouts they have no incentive to fix this broken system. A fair tax would also eliminate the need to file federal income tax returns.

Progressives love to tell us the rich don’t pay enough taxes while the fact is they pay the majority of taxes received by the federal government. The current system is pure wealth redistribution, which has been the goal of socialists since the implementation of the federal income tax nearly one hundred years ago.

The more money we pay in taxes the more the government spends. It is never enough. The Supreme Court ruled Obamacare was a tax and therefore constitutionally legal. Americans are seeing higher taxes and health care premiums and costs while experiencing less health care and less discretionary income. It appears the federal government’s goal is to take every last penny we earn to redistribute as it chooses. The national debt is nearing $20 Trillion Dollars. The government has borrowed on our future earnings and the labor and earnings of our children and grandchildren. It is theft and if not criminal it is most certainly immoral.

Well, there it is!

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Full List of Hillary’s Planned Tax Increases

30 Saturday Jul 2016

Posted by bydesign001 in Election 2016

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Hillary Clinton, Tax Increases, Taxes


One of my darkest memories (notice, I said one of them) of Bill Clinton’s presidency were the TAXES. At that time, I was struggling to raise four children and a recently disabled spouse.

We were living on one salary which took a direct hit from Clinton’s tax increase with approximately 60 to 63% of my salary (federal, state and city taxes) going to big government which forced the burden on me to work another 15 hours a week just to have enough in my pockets to pay bills and properly care for my family.

Then, as if that wasn’t painful enough, at year’s end, I paid even more taxes because as the IRS put it, I hadn’t paid enough. As for the credits, for some reason, I did not qualify for them.

Hillary Clinton's tax plan a windfall for big government 2

Yeah, I remember the Clinton era, well. America deserves far better than a third-term Bill Clinton and/or Barack Obama presidency which will guarantee more of the same.

Americans for Tax Reform by John Kartch and Alexander Hendrie

Hillary Clinton has made clear she intends to dramatically raise taxes on the American people if elected. She has proposed an income tax increase, a business tax increase, a death tax increase, a capital gains tax increase, a tax on stock trading, an “Exit Tax” and more (see below). Her planned net tax increase on the American people is at least $1 trillion over ten years, based on her campaign’s own figures.

Hillary has endorsed several tax increases on middle income Americans, despite her pledge not to raise taxes on any American making less than $250,000. She has said she would be fine with a payroll tax hike on all Americans, she has endorsed a steep soda tax, endorsed a 25% national gun tax, and most recently, her campaign manager John Podesta said she would be open to a carbon tax. It’s no wonder that when asked by ABC’s George Stephanopoulos if her pledge was a “rock-solid” promise, she slipped and said the pledge was merely a “goal.” In other words, she’s going to raise taxes on middle income Americans.

Hillary’s formally proposed $1 trillion net tax increase consists of the following:

Income Tax Increase – $350 Billion: Clinton has proposed a $350 billion income tax hike in the form of a 28 percent cap on itemized deductions.

Business Tax Increase — $275 Billion: Clinton has called for a tax hike of at least $275 billion through undefined business tax reform, as described in a Clinton campaign document.

“Fairness” Tax Increase — $400 Billion: According to her published plan, Clinton has called for a tax increase of “between $400 and $500 billion” by “restoring basic fairness to our tax code.” These proposals include a “fair share surcharge,” the taxing of carried interest capital gains as ordinary income, and a hike in the Death Tax.

But there are even more Clinton tax hike proposals not included in the tally above. Her campaign has failed to release specific details for many of her proposals. The true Clinton net tax hike figure is likely much higher than $1 trillion.

For instance:

Capital Gains Tax Increase — Clinton has proposed an increase in the capital gains tax to counter the “tyranny of today’s earnings report.” Her plan calls for a byzantine capital gains tax regime with six rates. Her campaign has not put a dollar amount on this tax increase.

Tax on Stock Trading — Clinton has proposed a new tax on stock trading. Costs associated with this new tax will be borne by millions of American families that hold 401(k)s, IRAs and other savings accounts. The tax increase would only further burden markets by discouraging trading and investment. Again, no dollar figure for this tax hike has been released by the Clinton campaign.

“Exit Tax” – Rather than reduce the extremely high, uncompetitive corporate tax rate, Clinton has proposed a series of measures aimed at inversions including an “exit tax” on income earned overseas. The term “exit tax” is used by the campaign itself. Her campaign document describing this proposal says it will raise $80 billion in tax revenue, but claims some of the $80 billion will be plowed into tax relief. How much? The campaign doesn’t say.

This proposal completely fails to address the underlying causes behind inversions: The U.S. 39% corporate tax rate (35% federal rate plus an average state rate of 4%) and our “worldwide” system of taxation, which imposes tax on all American earnings worldwide. The average corporate rate in the developed world is 25%. Thirty-one of thirty-four developed countries have cut their corporate tax rate since 2000. The U.S. has not. Hillary’s plan moves in the wrong direction.

ATR is tracking Clinton’s full tax record at its dedicated website, HighTaxHillary.com

See also: “Everyman” Tim Kaine Tried to Raise Taxes on Adult Beverages

Hillary Opens the Door to a Carbon Tax
Hillary’s Soda Tax Endorsement Violates Middle Class Tax Pledge
Video Shows Hillary’s 25% Gun Tax Endorsement
Democrat Platform Calls for Carbon Tax
Tim Kaine Pushed Income Tax Hikes on Working Families Making As Little as $17,000

 

Source: Americans for Tax Reform

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Rising Obamacare Premiums Force Walmart to Eliminate Healthcare for Part-Time Staff

08 Wednesday Oct 2014

Posted by bydesign001 in Uncategorized

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The fallout from Obamacare continues, as Walmart becomes the latest corporation to eliminate healthcare coverage for 30,000 part-time workers and increasing premiums paid by full-time employees by 19% effective February 2015.

The cheapest healthcare plan offered by Walmart will increase from $3.50 to $21.90 per paycheck.

Investors.com

If a retail empire built on low prices can’t find a way around ObamaCare’s added costs, we are all doomed.

The world’s biggest retailer announced this week that its health costs will be about 48% higher for the current fiscal year than it had expected in February. As a result, it’s cutting 30,000 part-timers from its health benefit plan, raising worker-paid premiums by 19% and trimming its co-payment for health costs above the deductible….

Read full article

Target, Home Depot and Trader Joe’s are among the many businesses that have eliminated healthcare coverage for part and/or full-time workers.

Of those Americans who have yet to feel the pain of Obamacare, prepare yourselves, its coming.

Obamacare approved barack obama

According to a study just released (October 7, 2014) by George Mason University’s Mercatus Center, Barack Obama’s signature piece legislation besides disincentivizing people from working, will shove millions of Americans from the full-time work status to part-time “either voluntarily or involuntarily, because of its mix of costs and subsidies” and that is barely the tip of the iceberg.

ACA Provisions Creating the Largest Disincentives to Work

The ACA imposes a $2,000 penalty for each full-time employee imposed on large employers (generally those with 50 or more workers) that do not offer health insurance. Due to this penalty’s unfavorable tax treatment, it is effectively a $3,000 employment tax and can be expected to reduce full-time employment.

The ACA denies health insurance subsidies to full-time workers and their families unless their employer fails to offer “affordable” coverage. Because these workers would qualify for insurance subsidies by cutting their weekly work hours to part time, this provision creates an implicit tax that reduces the benefit of working full time.

The ACA phases out health insurance subsidies as workers’ income increases. This compounds the escalated federal and state tax liabilities workers already face for earning more income….

Read full report

In any event, do not blame Obama because to hear him tell it, Americans are not shopping around for an affordable plan it is the boss’ fault.

screenshot millennial steel service barack obama 10032014 cropped edited

Last week, during an event at Millennium Steel Service in Princeton, Ind.when questioned by a general manager about the rising costs of Obamacare, Obama put the blame on the employee and employer “Well then you aren’t doing it right.”

True to form, passing the buck and playing the blame game, Obama stated “That’s really interesting, you’re gonna have to talk to Henry [Jackson, the Millennium Steel Service CEO]….The question is whether you guys are shopping effectively enough.” See video below. Source: Red Alert Politics.

LINKS:
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-obama-care/100714-720735-walmart-the-latest-victim-of-obamacare-high-prices-webhed-wal-mart-victim-of-obamacares-always-high-prices.htm
http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/07/news/economy/walmart-health-benefits/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
http://mercatus.org/publication/affordable-care-act-and-new-economics-part-time-work
http://redalertpolitics.com/2014/10/06/obama-blames-companies-higher-health-insurance-premiums-obamacare-says-shopping-effectively/

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WHY Aren’t The FEDS At Al Sharpton’s Homefront As They Were At Cliven Bundy’s?

14 Monday Apr 2014

Posted by bydesign001 in Uncategorized

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Bundy Ranch Standoff, Clive Bundy, Dictatorship, Double Standard, Government corruption, Nevada, New York, Taxes


WHY Aren’t The FEDS At Al Sharpton’s Homefront As They Were At Cliven Bundy’s?

The Mad Jewess

WHY Aren’t The FEDS At Al Shartons Homefront As They Were At Cliven Bundy’s? This is an email I received from my best buddy up here in the stix: I AM PISSED ABOUT HOW THE FEDS. THEY WENT AFTER THE RANCHER IN NEVADA……….SAYING HE OWES MILLIONS IN TAXES TO THE GOV….THEY GO AFTER HIM AND HIS PROPERTY WHICH IS HIS CATTLE……….BUT THEY LEAVE AL SHARPTON ALONE………WHERE IS THE “FAIRNESS” AND “EQUALITY” THE BLACKS ARE ALWAYS WHINING ABOUT! CAN YOU GET THIS STORY OUT? TYPE IN AL SHARPTON AND TAX ISSUES AND GO TO NEW YORK POST STORY WHICH EXPLAINS […]

 

Continue Reading – WHY Aren’t The FEDS At Al Sharpton’s Homefront As They Were At Cliven Bundy’s?

H/t Brittius.com.

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Progressive Admits Gun Control Is Not About Public Safety But Taxing And Controlling People

11 Friday Apr 2014

Posted by bydesign001 in Uncategorized

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Control, New York, Regulations, SAFE ACT, Second Amendment, Taxes


New York State assemblyman Richard Gottfried speaks during the USPS employee rally in eight Avenue & 31st street on March 24,2013.

New York State assemblyman Richard Gottfried speaks during the USPS employee rally in eight Avenue & 31st street on March 24,2013.

 

Downtrend

…Finally, a New York State lawmaker has admitted, though unintentionally, that the real aim of gun control is to generate money.

During last week’s anti-SAFE Act demonstration in New York, a handful of democrats staged a counter-demonstration. Richard Gottfried (D-Manhattan), the Chair of the Assembly Health Committee, made this statement:

I appreciate New Yorkers cherish their guns, but we also cherish our marriages, our children, our houses, our cars, ours dogs, and yet all these things have to be registered and are subject to regulation.  And we do that because it’s necessary to protect public health safety and welfare. That’s true of our marriages, and our homes, and our children, its true of our guns […]

Click here to view original web page at downtrend.com

 

Everything that government touches it corrupts.  Anything that it regulates it taxes and anything that it taxes, it seeks to control down to my  purchase of the Russian Blu napping in the recliner.

Progressives and their lies about gun control are no different from the teachers’ union with their claims that they do it for the children.

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TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY: No Internet Sales Tax! Dick Morris TV 04202012

21 Saturday Apr 2012

Posted by bydesign001 in Uncategorized

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Government revenues, Government War on Individual Constitutional Rights, Govt Regulation, Govt War on Constitution, Govt's War on America, Internet, Internet kill switch, Internet Sales Tax, Sales Tax, SOPA, Tax Increases, Taxed Enough Already, Taxes, Taxing the Internet


Received the following email yesterday from DICK MORRIS TV and thought I would pass it along.  Please sign petition and share.  Thanks.

DICK MORRIS TV:

In this video commentary, I discuss how we must stop the federal government from taxing Internet sales! Tune in!

Click Here to sign the petition to stop sales tax on the Internet!

Click Here to give me your thoughts and continue the discussion.”

Many of the politicians backing this legislation brought us SOPA among others.  We need to send a message to back off.


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