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During a debate last night at the University of Michigan sponsored by the Young Americans Foundation between Bill Ayers and Dinesh D’Souza, the two were asked, “Do either of you feel that our criminal justice system has become too political?”

The exchange lasted for a few moments during which a response by D’Souza stunned the former leader of the Weather Underground.

Ayers’ the first to answer the question said:

“Our political justice system is a catastrophe. It’s a catastrophe. And what was exposed in Ferguson, that the criminal just system is kind of powered, the financing of it is powered by the kind of targeting of poor people. That’s true in Ferguson, that’s true in Chicago….”

But Ayers did not stop there.  Using D’Souza’s overnight incarceration and allegations of campaign finance violation to prove his point, Ayers further stated:

“One of the things that I also think is catastrophic in it, is that the political system is something that is now for sale — it’s on the auction block and Dinesh referred to his time in custody.

I offered to write him a letter to the judge asking him not to put Dinesh in prison, he turned it down — Because I was going to advocate that he go to North Carolina and register voters which would fit the crime of corrupting the political process in New York…I think the criminal justice system is deeply corrupt and it’s corrupted by politics.”

D’Souza pounced:

“The inequity of our criminal justice system is on full display right on this podium right here…So I gave $20,000 of my own money over the campaign finance limit. I got 8 months in overnight confinement. You bombed the Pentagon and tried to bomb all kinds of other things — how much time did you do in the slammer?”


While Ayers attempted to rebut D’Souza statement, he failed ending with D’Souza pointing out the Progressive double standard between the Obama administration with respect to campaign finance violations involving Hillary Clinton and Democratic fundraiser Sant Singh Chatwal, one of many Democratic donors skirted campaign finance laws.

In the case of Chatwal who plead guilty to skirting federal campaign-finance laws and witness tampering, Chatwal walked away with 3 years probation.

H/t The Blaze.

The debate on the topic “What’s so exceptional about America?” can be viewed in its entirety on Livestream here.